Sunday, February 7, 2010

Is it true that Obama is Kenyan and not an American citizen?

No one knows for sure.





I'm as surprised as everyone else that Ms. Taitz was able to get Judge Carter to rule to move this case forward. Like many of you, I too wish for this Constitutional question be resolved once and for all and sooner rather than later.





Also, like many of you I have followed this drama since it first started to unfold nearly a year ago. I am a Dem. I am not racist. I want the truth. That's it. Name calling or fingering the R's with pushing for the truth about this very serious issue only shows your lack of understanding about the laws that govern our society. I'd ask you to stop but know better. Name calling seems to be what many of you do best.





There are a couple of items posted that are inaccurate in nature, and I'd like to be afforded the opportunity to clear them up.





First, because Barack Obama Sr. was a subject of the British Crown at the time Barack Jr. was born, Barack Sr.'s children, all of them, became subjects of the British Crown. Barack Jr. has stated this very clearly on his former ';Fight the Smears'; website which has since been srubbed. If you wish to read what his campaign wrote visit just about any blog covering this story and you can pull it up and read it with your own eyes.





What this means is that Barack Sr's loyalty lied with the Brits. Ann Stanley Dunham, Barack Jr's mothers, loyalties lie with the USA. When Barack was born to these two individuals he became a citizen of the US by virtue of his mother's citizenship AND a subject aka citizen of the British Colony aka Kenya.





This status of citizenship is known as ';Dual'; citizenship. Note: some argue that if Barack Jr was born in Kenya then his mother was to young to pass on US citizenship, hence, why folks want to see his original vaulted long-form birth certificate.





To complicate matters further, Barack Obama Jr was adopted by an Indonesian citizen named Lolo Soetoro. If he was adopted under the age of 5 he would have automatically become a citizen of Indonesia regardless of a legal adoption. Note - the US gave deference to sovereign territory laws regarding dual citizenship, ie., American and Indonesia or British and Indonesian, etc. Indonesia, at that time, did not recognize dual and only recognized Indonesian citizenship. Therefore, Barack Jr through adoption became an Indonesian citizen. No, he did not ask for this but as a minor child he was under his parents guardianship.





If Barack Obama Jr. went to Indonesia at the age of 6 he would have had to have been formally adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Indonesian court. The citizenship status, as noted above, would still apply.





Now, we already know that Barack, by birth, was a dual national, British and American, which means he can only be a ';native'; citizen, that is, if he was born in Hawai'i as he has stated AND if when he returned from Indonesia he applied for and received his status as a naturalized citizen. If he did not apply for naturalization then he is an illegal alien. Few question whether he didn't apply for naturalization but there is no record of it to date so it cannot be ruled out.





Our Founding Fathers made it clear in Article II of the US Constitution that the President must be NOT may be a ';Natural Born Citizen'; for a reason. They wanted this leader to have loyalties ONLY to the USA rather than divided loyalties such as the USA and Britian - remember these good men gave blood and treasure during the Revolutionary War to secure freedom from the British Crown. They did not want the leader of this country to be loyal to any other homeland.





The definition of a ';Natural Born'; citizen is two ';natural born'; parents of the USA. It's nothing more complicated than this. For example, someone below stated their family dwelled in Virginia and had roots that went back to the 1600s. If you were to marry another natural born individual and the two of you had a child in the USA or abroad at a military base or embassy your child would be a NBC.





Barack Obama Jr., by birth, never had the citizenship status of a ';natural born'; child and is therefore ineligible to serve as the President of the USA according to the laws that govern our nation.





Now if you want to direct your hostility to the appropriate parties who looked the other way then please look no further than the DNC, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Diane Feinstein. These are the culprits who signed off on the eligibility documents required by individual state's Board of Elections. The Party is the sole determiner in vetting their candidates eligibility. No federal agent is required by law to vet said candidates.





Barack Obama Jr is by definition under our laws a ';native citizen'; AND NOT a ';natural born citizen';. This is fact as he has clearly stated himself.Is it true that Obama is Kenyan and not an American citizen?
The president was born to an american mother and an african father in Hawaii in 1961. So he is an american citizen.





Anybody with a shred of intelligence knows that if there had been any way the republicans could have proved his ineligibility to serve as president, they would have proved it more than a year ago. They had the FBI, CIA and the entire force of the government behind them and they know that the president is an american. You can't actually believe that they wouldn't have used that to disqualify him from even running for president.Is it true that Obama is Kenyan and not an American citizen?
No, he is of partial Kenyan ancestry. He is also of partial Irish ancestry and Ireland was quick to claim him. I guess the Irish are more open minded than many Americans.





If this is about ancestry dictating citizenship then I am wagering you are not a citizen either.





Obama is half black and that does not disqualify him from being President any more than being half Irish does.
OBAMA iz an american citizen, he was born in America, his father is african (kenyan) and was born in kenyan but obama was born hear to a african father makin him african american (black) and half white..he was born in hawaii..and hawaii is a state so he is american born hawaii became a state in 1959 and obama was born 1961 which means hawaii was a state before he was born and he iz an American citizen
No, he's American. He's provided his birth certificate, the Hawaii Department of Health confirmed he was born there, and he met all of the eligibility requirements. Some crazy right-wingers don't want to accept this fact, but he's definitely an American citizen.
Um - no, it's not true. His father is from Kenya. Obama was born in the US - Hawaii, I believe. Anyway, you should know this from civics class - only a US citizen can become president.





NB: You've got Internet access, so why wouldn't you go look this up somewhere rather than asking a bunch of people in YA to give you a lot of bogus answers and a hard time to boot? Check out wikipedia for one (generally fairly accurate) source of information on a wide variety of topics.
We will never know.


1) Everyone who could vouch for him being born in Hawaii is dead.


2) The Attending Physician who was on duty when he was born is also apparently dead, since he never came forward.


3) His Birth Records in Hawaii are sealed.


4) He released a ';Certificate of Live Birth';, which was a certificate issued to citizen parents of children who were born outside the US. Some people claim this is in fact a Birth Certificate, and that the ';short form'; Birth Certificate is called a ';Certificate of Live Birth';. I must be strange then, because both my original and reissue short forms say ';Birth Certificate';.


5) On 1/21/09, he signed Executive Order 13408 (or 13480...I forget which) that overrules the Freedom of Information Act in regards to ';vetting'; a President after they assume office. In other words, even a court order now cannot make Obama release his long form.
It's completely false.





He was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.
We'll probably never know. He has sealed his records and the COLB he touts as the real deal simply is not the real deal. He spends a lot of money to avoid showing the birth certificate. Ten minutes and ten bucks and the issue would go away. But no..he continues to fight the effort, and people actually see nothing wrong with that. As for the people who claim we have no right to see it--he has access to the red button--so YES we do.
If he wasn't an american citizen, he couldn't be the president of the us. so he is an american citizen. arnald swarzeneggar (sp?) wanted to run for president too, but he can't because he's austrian. my history teacher told me, haha.
Obama is definitely an American citizen.





He is half Kenyan and half Caucasian.





His dad was from Kenyan, came to the states, married his mom, and they had him.





If you are born in the U.S. regardless of your parent's origins, you are always a citizen.
No, it's not true! It's not true today nor will it be tomorrow. It wasn't true yesterday, and I'm sure it won't be next year, next decade, or even next century. That's just something the far-right is trying to cook up to make people afraid. These are the same kinds of people who tried to convince America, that the Pope would take over the country when JFK got elected because he was Catholic.
The preponderance of the evidence strongly suggests he's Kenyan by birth, Indonesian by citizenship.


The first part is probably impossible to prove. The second is impossible to DISPROVE since it's positively KNOWN to be true.
I believe that he is Kenyan but I also believe that he is an American citizen. I mean, There are African Americans and Asian Americans. So What I don't understand is why he would be considered a non-citizen.
lol in order to become president, you have to be an american citizen. also, he was born in hawaii if ur wondering what nationality he is.
ummm, if u weren't stupid you would know that its not possible for someone to b pres. if they're not a natural-born citizen of the US.....but obviously u are stupid which is why ur asking this.....and inconviniencing us by having to answer and maybe enlighten u a little bit......
No.








Obama's father is Kenyan, but his mother was Hawaiian. He was born in the US, and has always been in the US. He is a US citizen.
No. He's as American as anyone else. He's certainly more American than say, Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger.
Is it true that uneducated conservative are so retarded that they cant come up with a good logical question to attack Obama?
I don't have proof.


The birthers don't have proof.


The FEDERAL GOVT and Obama have proof. You see the man in office? does that tell you anything?
hes spent over 12 million on 12 law firms in 10 states to prevent you from seeing his birth records. whats he worried about that he was born in kenyan and not in america . google obamas birth records read all about it
If he is president he IS an American citizen(unfortunately). This has already been through the court before he was sworn in to office.
The important thing is that he is a socialist and is against freedom, democracy, and capitalism. I hope I never get sick.
neither side has proven their case.


strange, though, it would be SO EASY for Obama to prove he was born in America. Why doesn't he??
he may have kenyan roots but he has to be an american citizen to become president.
i think he was born here so yes he is american if he wasn't than he wouldn't be aloud to run for president
Obama couldn't have become president if he wasn't a citizen of the US.
I checked out wikipedia and hes definetely American


(Born in Hawaii,US)
Unlikely...you can't be president unless you're a citizen (with 3 generations f american citizens before you)





Is one of the requirements to become president of the U.S.


or any country for that matter--sort of.





Then again, strangest things have happenned. idk
I think he comes from Mars, the Apollo


11 crew tried to talk him into setting a


goal to go there, but he declined, may be afraid


of what they will find out there!
He's also mexican and an australian aboriginal as well as being chinese, eww

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